Canyoneering Route Description

Second Guess Fork - 3A II
Ticaboo Mesa, Utah

Quick Facts

2018-03-16 and  03-17, 2 people, 1 Day (Travel time in route ??) Pictures Icon Did in two section over two days.  No time recorded

Time Required - 3.5 to 4.5 hours
Distance - 4.2 miles Total, 0.9 miles Technical  (0.4 miles tech in Second Guess and 0.5 miles tech in Sevenmile)
Rappels - 3 Rappels, Longest Rappel 90 feet.  2 rappels in Second Guess and 1 rappel in Sevenmile
Elevation Range - 4850 - 4080 Feet
Shuttle Required - No Vehicle - High Clearance, 4WD if bad road conditions Permit Required - No

Gear Used for Canyon

Rappelling and anchor gear, Ropes and or pull cords for rappels up to 90 feet and 30 feet of 1 inch webbing for sling placement.

General Comments

Second Guess is a canyon I wanted to look at just because it was there, not because it looked good. Turns out its not all that great but can make for a lazy day out to see an new area. Not recommended as a destination canyon. Actually its not really recommended at all. Just something to do if bored.

Second Guess Fork drops into Sevenmile Canyon Downstream of Little East Fork and up stream of Big East Fork. The exit for the canyon described here is to go down Sevenmile Canyon to the junction of Big East Fork, then go up Big East fork, then scramble up the rubble filled exit up from Big East Fork then follow the remainder of the Big East Fork exit route.

A GPS or decent map reading is needed to be sure you do not drop into the wrong fork.

Other exits are possible. One of which looks like a good route but has not been confirmed is to get to Sevenmile Canyon then turn and go up stream for almost 500 feet to where you can scramble up some sloped ledges up to the rim above then rim walk Second Guess Canyon to it's head then reverse the approach route.

Second Guess Fork was named because we were on a weekend planned for easy routes mixing and matching some of the Sevenmile drainages over two days. When we got to the rim on day 1 and discovered we did not bring extra webbing, sandtrap, potshot, or other tools for the unknown. While we did not expect much from the canyon, it is not smart to explore with almost no tools for "just in case". So, we found our selves on the rim, second guessing our poor planning. We decided to descend the part we could easily see on day 1, then come back on day 2 to do the part we could not see well.

The pictures in the gallery will appear very out of order and they kind of are. We did various portions of the route on different days and combines with other routes in the area. The pictures used are a combination of what was taken during the two days and lumped into one gallery.

Driving Directions

To get to the Trailhead

Note:
There is a maze of roads on Ticaboo Mesa making it a good idea to study the map ahead of time and keep a close eye on the map as you drive.

From Hanksville, UT., drive south on highway 95 for 26 miles to the junction of highways 95 and 276.

From the junction, drive south on HWY-276 for 25.6 miles then turn left (east) onto BLM dirt-road 13400 between mile markers 25 and 26 (extTicaboo1).

About 1.5 miles from the highway is a junction (TicabooDP-01) of BLM roads, 13400 continues east and 13410 branches off to the south.  Continue east on BLM road 13400.  Note: If you were headed to the Smith Fork area you would turn south onto BLM road 13410.

About 2 miles farther is another junction (TicabooDP-02) of BLM roads, 13400 continues east and 13420 branches off to the south. Continue east on BLM road 13400.  Note: BLM road 13420 to the south goes out to Cane Spring Well about 1.25 miles south.

About 0.2 miles farther is short side road (TicabooDP-03) on the left (north) that goes to a camp area.
Stay right to continue on BLM road 13400.  Beyond this point the roads will have intermittent rough sections. 
About 0.37 miles past here is a fork in the road where the two roads rejoin a short distance later.  The low road is typically the smoothest.

About 1.7 miles farther is another junction (TicabooDP-04) of BLM roads (13400 continues north-ish and 13430 branches off to the south).
Continue north on BLM road 13400. 
Note: If you were going to the roads between Warm Springs Creek and Sevenmile Creek, you would turn south onto BLM road 13430.

About 0.3 miles farther is another junction (TicabooDP-05) of BLM roads (13400 continues northeast and 13440 branches off to the north).
Continue straight northeast on BLM road 13400.
Note: BLM road 13440 to the south goes out to Colt Spring Well about 0.4 miles north.

About 0.5 miles farther is a junction (TicabooDP-06) of BLM roads (13400 continues northeast and 13450 branches off to the north).
Continue straight northeast on BLM road 13400.

About 0.9 miles farther is a junction (TicabooDP-07) of BLM roads (13400 continues northeast and 13430 branches off to the south).
Turn south onto BLM road 13430.
Note: If you were going to Tough, SF Ticaboo or Sleepytime Trio Canyons you would continue northeast on BLM road 13400.

About 700 feet farther is a fork in the road (extWarmSpring).  At this fork stay left to continue toward the East Branch of Seven Mile Creek.

About 0.4 miles farther is another fork in the road (ext7MileCkEB).  Veer right (more south) to continue toward the East Branch of 7 Mile Creek.

About 1.0 mile farther is a junction (7MileCkEBDP-01) where a side road joins in from the left.  Continue straight (south) past the side road.

About 0.5 miles farther is a jog in the road (7MileCkEBDP-02) near an old stock pond.  Turning left leads to a berm with a survey marker by a stock pond.  Veer right to continue south.

As you drive south from the stock pond, the road crosses over some shallow washes.  Park off to the side of the road by the wash that is 0.52 miles past the stock pond (pk7MileEast-1).  There is no obvious spot to park, just park off to the side of the road to allow traffic to pass while you are gone.  Alternately you can park at the other parking spot about 600 feet north of here where another minor drainage crosses the road and is another minor fork of Big East Fork.

To leave the Exit Vehicle / Escape Pod

No exit vehicle is needed.  This is done as a loop route.

Maps

GPS coordinate information listed at the bottom.  For information about waypoint naming and map symbols, refer to the Glossary page.

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Map of the entire route.
Map of the technical section.

Details

The Approach:
From car park (pk7MileEast-1) walk southwest across rolling desert staying just to the north of the minor drainage (the minor drainage will be on your left). Walk about 0.73 miles out to a minor dirt hill near the head of Selfish Fork.

From the minor dirt hill (7mileBEF_19) walk northwest over into then across to the other side of the shallow drainage above Selfish Fork.

As you cross over the minor drainage (7mileBEF_18) walk west roughly rim walking the dirt mesa above Selfish Fork on the left (south). As you get about 0.2 miles farther veer left and look for a weakness in the cliff band to the right (north).

From the top (Second01) of a rubble pile weakness in the cliff band, Scramble down to the next lower level then walk west about 500 feet to the head of Second Guess Canyon (ySecondTp). 

The Canyoneering / Technical Section:
From the top of Second Guess Canyon (ySecondTp) scramble and downclimb through sloped and featured slickrock down to the start of a section of stemming / galumphing where you will be 10 or 12 feet off the deck for about 200 feet down canyon.  Shortly down canyon is rap 1.

Rap 1 (dSecondR1) is anchored from one of many bushes about 40 feet up canyon and drops about 45. Be careful about which one you choose..... pick a live one. At the bottom of rap 1 is a deep narrow slot to walk and galumph through for about 300 feet.

As the canyon opens up to wide wash walking (Second02) it is about 200 feet to a ravine (SecondEE1a) that can be scrambled up on the LDC (south) side if an early exit is desired.

A little over 300 feet farther are loped ledges (Second03) to scramble down. A partner assist at the bottom may be useful for some to keep from sliding too fast.  About 150 feet farther is rap 2.

Rap 2 (dSecondR2) is anchored from one of many large rocks about 20 feet back in the wash and drops over two stages using about 90 feet of rope. Be sure to choose a rock that is solid and does not move.

Note: you can also scramble up out the RDC (northish) side from the top of rap 2 if needed.

Just after rap 2 is a steep section of slickrock (Second04) to downclimb where only the last 6 feet are so steep you wonder if you will break free to a slide. Right at the bottom of that is a deep rubble filled crack to downclimb into but is a little awkward / challenging due to lots of loose rock. Paying attention and moving slowly should be enough to allow most people to easily downclimb this spot. The deep crack opens up a very short distance after getting to the ground with more open wash walking.

Wide wash walking for about 900 feet gets you to the end of Second Guess Fork where it meets Sevenmile Canyon (ySecondBt).

The Exit:
From the bottom of Second Guess Fork (ySecondBt) turn left and start south down Sevenmile Canyon.

About 900 feet down canyon is an early exit (j7MilEx1RP-01) out the RDC (west) side of Seven mile.

Note:
This exit is not used for Second Guess Fork as it is on the wrong side of Sevenmile.

About 225 feet farther down canyon is rap 4 in Sevenmile Canyon.

Rap 4 of Sevenmile (d7MileR4) can be anchored from rocks at the top of the drop and drops down the LDC side of a huge boulder a total of about 20 feet over 2 stages around and under a the boulder.

Skilled downclimbers can downclimb this drop with partner assist and a short rope. The first person down can use a handline provided by someone at the top. The first person down can then stay at the bottom of the first stage to partner assist others through the first stage then follow down the second stage which is easy.

About 600 feet farther is a short section of boulder debris (7MileMn15) to walk / boulder hop through.

About 850 feet farther is the confluence with Big East Fork (y7MileBEF-Bt).

Turn left and start east up Big East Fork.

About 800 feet up Big East Fork will be a big boulder pile that will be moderately challenging to upclimb.

Just at the top of the boulder pile is a rubble filled ravine on the left (north) side of the canyon running right up next to the Selfish Fork which drops into Big East Fork here.

From the bottom of the rubble filled ravine (j7mileBEF-Ext) scramble up the rubble.  After about 200 feet the grade becomes more gentle and will be less rubble filled. About 200 feet farther you will be able to turn right and scramble up out of the cross joint you are in up onto rolling slick rock.

When the cross joint is shallow enough (7mileBEF_10) to allow you to scramble to the right (northeast) up onto rolling slickrock.

About 140 feet farther is the top of a ridge (7mileBEF_11) you can walk down to get into the wide open wash of the Selfish Fork below. To continue on the exit route continue northeast along rolling slickrock roughly following what feels like the crest of the ridge.

About 650 feet farther the route tops out briefly (7mileBEF_12). Continue northeast down the other side and over to a prominent steep hill about 450 feet away.

When you get to the hill (7mileBEF_13) go part way up the steep hill to here then veer left (north) to work your way out around the steep upper portion. Walk about 200 feet to the left the circle around 200 feet again to get to the other side of the hill where you will see one more hill that you can walk straight up.

On the other side is a survey marker (7Mile-BM-01), continue northeast up the hill.

At the top out of a hill (7mileBEF_14) you now have a good view of the cliff side of the mesa about 700 feet away. Walk over to the cliff band and travel just to the right of it.

When you get to the base of the cliff band (7mileBEF_15) below the mesa top. Walk along the base of the cliff band to the right (southeast) for about 270 feet to the base of a rubble pile to scramble up to the mesa top.

From the bottom of a rubble pile (7mileBEF_16) scramble up to get up on the mesa top.

From the top of the rubble pile (7mileBEF_17) continue northeast back toward the road.

About 0.34 miles farther cross over the shallow drainage (7mileBEF_18) then continue northeast and up the dirt hill to the next level.
This shallow drainage is the top end of the Selfish Fork.

after getting up the small dirt hill (7mileBEF_19) continue northeast toward the road. As you continue you may notice a drainage forming on your right (southish) which is the top of Big East Fork. You can drop back into the drainage if desired and follow it up but travel may be easier staying high and walking the rolling desert to the car (pk7MileEast-1) about 0.75 miles to the northeast.

GPS Waypoint Information

Downloadable GPX files available at BG-Gear Store (easier than manual entry and a great way to support Bluugnome).
Waypoint naming convention and map symbol information can be found on the Glossary page.  Elevations are approximate.
BEFORE manually entering coordinates set your system to WGS84 datum and Lat/Lon hddd.ddddd° coordinate format. 
Inconsistent datum's and coordinate formats will result in location errors.

Click to show / expand the list of waypoints below........
Second Guess Fork (1) - Drive to Trailhead
  1. extTicaboo1          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.69720   W -110.67138        Elev: 4,520 Feet
    Exit off of highway 276 onto BLM road 13400 to get to the Ticaboo Mesa area. Turn east and leave the highway on a dirt road. Near Mile post 25.
  2. TicabooDP-01          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.68607   W -110.65188        Elev: NaN Feet
    Continue straight for the main area of Ticaboo Mesa. Or Turn right (south) here for an alternate route over toward the Smith Fork Canyons.
  3. TicabooDP-02          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.67981   W -110.62886        Elev: NaN Feet
    Road junction with faint road running to the south. Continue straight (east). Road to the south is about 1.25 miles long and goes down toward Cane Spring Well.
  4. TicabooDP-03          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.68038   W -110.62628        Elev: 4,565 Feet
    Exit to a spot to camp if the roads ahead are too rough.
  5. TicabooDP-04          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.67963   W -110.60429        Elev: NaN Feet
    Junction for a road going south. Continue straiaght (north east) to continue toward Ticaboo Measa. This road junction is near Wild Horse Springs.
  6. TicabooDP-05          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.68389   W -110.60153        Elev: NaN Feet
    Junction for a side road on the left going north. Continue north east toward Ticaboo Mesa. The road going north is BLM Road 13440 aobut 0.4 miles long and goes over toward Colt Spring.
  7. TicabooDP-06          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.68667   W -110.59547        Elev: NaN Feet
    Junction for a side road going north. The Road north is BLM Road 13540 and goes out toward Upper South Fork Ticaboo.
  8. TicabooDP-07          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.69529   W -110.58385        Elev: NaN Feet
    Turn off for a side road on the right. Turn right onto the side road and drive southwest.
  9. extWarmSpring          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.69362   W -110.58484        Elev: NaN Feet
    Stay right to go toward the main drainage of Seven Mile Creek and Warm Springs Canyon. Or Stay left to go toward the East Branch of Seven Mile Creek and Ticaboo Mesa.
  10. ext7MileCkEB          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.69147   W -110.58014        Elev: NaN Feet
    Turn right (more south) to continue toward the East Branch of Seven Mile Creek. Or veer left to continue toward Ticaboo Mesa.
  11. 7MileCkEBDP-01          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.68044   W -110.56997        Elev: NaN Feet
    Continuestraight (south) past a side road joining from the left. This road is not shown on all maps.
  12. 7MileCkEBDP-02          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.67443   W -110.56735        Elev: NaN Feet
    Jog in the road near a stock pond. Veer right and continue south. Turning left leads to a berm with a survey marker on it.
  13. pk7MileEast-1          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66847   W -110.56220        Elev: 4,850 Feet
    Spots to park for doing the Big East Fork, Selfish Fork, Little East Fork or Second Guess Fork of Seven Mile Creek. This spot is 0.52 miles after passing the stock pond and is where a minor drainage crosses the road. There is no defined parking spot and you will need to pull off the side of the road where you feel comfortable doing so. A GPS may be helpful to know you are in the correct spot. To go down Big East Fork, follow southwest down the minor drainage here or park about 600 feet north of here where another minor drainage crosses the road and is another minor fork of Big East Fork which can also be walked down to enter Big East Fork. Walk southwest down the minor drainage you parked at for about 0.42 miles to the confluence of the two minor drainages. To go to Selfish Fork or Second Guess Fork. Walk southwest across rolling desert staying just to the north of the minor drainage (the minor drainage will be on your left). Walk about 0.73 miles out to a minor dirt hill near the head of Selfish Fork. To go to Little East Fork, ............
Second Guess Fork (2) - Approach
  1. pk7MileEast-1          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66847   W -110.56220        Elev: 4,850 Feet
    Spots to park for doing the Big East Fork, Selfish Fork, Little East Fork or Second Guess Fork of Seven Mile Creek. This spot is 0.52 miles after passing the stock pond and is where a minor drainage crosses the road. There is no defined parking spot and you will need to pull off the side of the road where you feel comfortable doing so. A GPS may be helpful to know you are in the correct spot. To go down Big East Fork, follow southwest down the minor drainage here or park about 600 feet north of here where another minor drainage crosses the road and is another minor fork of Big East Fork which can also be walked down to enter Big East Fork. Walk southwest down the minor drainage you parked at for about 0.42 miles to the confluence of the two minor drainages. To go to Selfish Fork or Second Guess Fork. Walk southwest across rolling desert staying just to the north of the minor drainage (the minor drainage will be on your left). Walk about 0.73 miles out to a minor dirt hill near the head of Selfish Fork. To go to Little East Fork, ............
  2. 7mileBEF_19          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66305   W -110.57372        Elev: NaN Feet
    After getting up this small dirt hill continue northeast toward the road. As you continue you may notice a drainage forming on your right (southish) which is the top of Big East Fork. You can drop back into the drainage if desired and follow it up but travel may be easier staying high and walking the rolling desert to the car about 0.75 miles to the northeast. If on the approach route to Selfish Fork continue about 500 feet southwest to the top of a the Selfish Fork drainage then about 200 feet farther to the first drop at the head of the canyon. If on approach to Second Guess Fork walk northwest over into then across to the other side of the shallow drainage above Selfish Fork.
  3. 7mileBEF_18          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66308   W -110.57514        Elev: NaN Feet
    Crossing over the shallow drainage. Continue northeast and up the dirt hill to the next level. This shallow drainage is the top end of the Selfish Fork. If on approach to Second Guess Fork walk west roughly rim walking the dirt mesa above Selfish Fork on the left (south). As you get about 0.2 miles farther veer left and look for a weakness in the cliff band to the right (north).
  4. Second01          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66158   W -110.57973        Elev: NaN Feet
    Top of a rubble pile leading down off the mesa down to Second Guess Canyon. There are a couple other weaknesses near here to downcliimb if an alternate is desired. After dropping down off the mesa, walk west about 500 feet to the head of Second Guess Canyon.
  5. ySecondTp          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66200   W -110.58159        Elev: 4,520 Feet
    Top of Second Guess Fork. Scramble and downclimb through sloped and featured slickrock down to the start of a section of stemming / galumphing where you will be 10 or 12 feet off the deck for about 200 feet down canyon.
Second Guess Fork (3) - The Canyon
  1. ySecondTp          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66200   W -110.58159        Elev: 4,520 Feet
    Top of Second Guess Fork. Scramble and downclimb through sloped and featured slickrock down to the start of a section of stemming / galumphing where you will be 10 or 12 feet off the deck for about 200 feet down canyon.
  2. dSecondR1          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66203   W -110.58290        Elev: NaN Feet
    Rap 1 - Second Guess Fork. Anchored from one of many bushes about 40 feet up canyon and drops about 45. Be careful about which one you choose..... pick a live one. At the bottom of rap 1 is a deep narrow slot to walk and galumph through for about 300 feet.
  3. Second02          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66167   W -110.58367        Elev: NaN Feet
    Canyon opens up to wide wash walking.
  4. SecondEE1a          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66132   W -110.58412        Elev: NaN Feet
    Bottom end of a chossy ravine to scramble into or out of Second Guess Fork.
  5. Second03          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66063   W -110.58473        Elev: NaN Feet
    Sloped ledges to scramble down. A partner assist at the bottom may be useful for some to keep from sliding too fast.
  6. dSecondR2          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66036   W -110.58514        Elev: NaN Feet
    Rap 2 - Second Guess Canyon. Anchored from one of many large rocks about 20 feet back in the wash and drops over two stages using about 90 feet of rope. Be sure to choose a rock that is solid and does not move. Note you can also scramble up out the RDC (northish) side from the top of rap 2 if needed.
  7. Second04          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66010   W -110.58520        Elev: NaN Feet
    Just after rap 2 is a steep section of slickrock to downclimb where only the last 6 feet are so steep you wonder if you will break free to a slide. Right at the bottom of that is a deep rubble filled crack to downclimb into but is a little awkward / challenging due to lots of loose rock. Paying attention and moving slowly should be enough to allow most people to easily downclimb this spot. The deep crack opens up a very short distance after getting to the ground with more open wash walking.
  8. ySecondBt          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65915   W -110.58751        Elev: 4,190 Feet
    Bottom of Second Guess Fork where it drops into Sevenmile Canyon.
Second Guess Fork (4) - Down Sevenmile to Big East Fork
  1. ySecondBt          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65915   W -110.58751        Elev: 4,190 Feet
    Bottom of Second Guess Fork where it drops into Sevenmile Canyon.
  2. j7MilEx1RP-01          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65690   W -110.58786        Elev: 4,180 Feet
    Can scramble up out of the wash here and travel northish up the slopes to exit Sevenmile. This spot is on the down canyon end of a section about 150 feet long where the RDC (west) side walls are low and have a few spots where you can scramble up. This lower section has easier spots. Just down canyon of this exit the canyon slots up again.
  3. d7MileR4          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65631   W -110.58782        Elev: NaN Feet
    Rap 4 - Sevenmile Canyon. Can be anchored from rocks at the top of the drop and drops down the LDC side of a huge boulder a total of about 20 feet over 2 stages around and under a the boulder. Skilled downclimbers can downclimb this drop with partner assist and a short rope. The first person down can use a handline provided by someone at the top. The first person down can then stay at the bottom of the first stage to partner assist others through the first stage then follow down the second stage which is easy.
  4. 7MileMn15          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65483   W -110.58832        Elev: NaN Feet
    Short section of boulder debris to walk / boulder hop through.
  5. y7MileBEF-Bt          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65268   W -110.58832        Elev: 4,080 Feet
    Bottom of the Big East Fork of Seven Mile Canyon where it drops into the main fork. If traveling up from below the confluence the Big East Fork is to the right (east) and is visually the larger looking of the two. If traveling down the Big East Fork to here the up canyon direction in the main Seven Mile Creek is small and easily goes un-noticed. About 140 feet up the Main Seven Mile Canyon from here is a chute to start an exit up out of the system to the west.
Second Guess Fork (5) - Exit via Big East Fork Exit
  1. y7MileBEF-Bt          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65268   W -110.58832        Elev: 4,080 Feet
    Bottom of the Big East Fork of Seven Mile Canyon where it drops into the main fork. If traveling up from below the confluence the Big East Fork is to the right (east) and is visually the larger looking of the two. If traveling down the Big East Fork to here the up canyon direction in the main Seven Mile Creek is small and easily goes un-noticed. About 140 feet up the Main Seven Mile Canyon from here is a chute to start an exit up out of the system to the west.
  2. j7mileBEF-Ext          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65366   W -110.58573        Elev: 4,160 Feet
    Side canyon joins in from RDC (we called it the Selfish Fork) and there is a ravine / rubble ramp just down canyon of it. To exit the canyon scramble north up the ravine / rubble ramp. If you want to see the remainder of the Big East Fork continue down canyon over one 10 foot drop over a boulder then a mix of walking and light galumphing for about 900 feet to the confluence with Seven Mile Creek. After going to the confluence come back up canyon to here to exit. Caution if you go to the confluence it is easy to walk past it and never notice and find your self walking down main Seven Mile Creek. To Exit: Scramble up the side ravine / rubble ramp. After about 200 feet the grade becomes more gentle and will be less rubble filled. About 200 feet farther you will be able to turn right and scramble up out of the cross joint you are in up onto rolling slick rock. Note: The last 150 feet of the Selfish Fork just above here is downclimbable down to here. For a fun side trip you can go part way up the exit route then drop into the Selfish Fork where it is a wide open wash then down climb through this section back down into the Big East Fork. This side trip adds a little extra fun to the Big East Fork if desired.
  3. 7mileBEF_10          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65472   W -110.58645        Elev: NaN Feet
    Cross joint is shallow enough to allow you to scramble to the right (northeast) up onto rolling slickrock.
  4. 7mileBEF_11          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65487   W -110.58597        Elev: NaN Feet
    Top of a ridge you can walk down to get into the wide open wash of the Selfish Fork below. To continue on the exit route continue northeast along rolling slickrock roughly following what feels like the crest of the ridge.
  5. 7mileBEF_12          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65643   W -110.58495        Elev: NaN Feet
    The route tops out briefly here. Continue northeast down the other side and over to a prominent steep hill about 450 feet away.
  6. 7mileBEF_13          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65741   W -110.58399        Elev: NaN Feet
    Go part way up the steep hill to here then veer left (north) to work your way out around the steep upper portion. Walk about 200 feet to the left the circle around 200 feet again to get to the other side of the hill where you will see one more hill that you can walk straight up.
  7. 7Mile-BM-01          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65764   W -110.58339        Elev: 4,430 Feet
    Survey marker. On the Exit from Big East Fork continue northeast up the hill.
  8. 7mileBEF_14          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65831   W -110.58278        Elev: NaN Feet
    Top out of a hill where you now have a good view of the cliff side of the mesa about 700 feet away. Walk over to the cliff band and travel just to the right of it.
  9. 7mileBEF_15          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.65967   W -110.58104        Elev: NaN Feet
    Base of the cliff band below the mesa top. Walk along the base of the cliff band to the right (southeast) for about 270 feet to the base of a rubble pile to scramble up to the mesa top.
  10. 7mileBEF_16          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66001   W -110.58016        Elev: NaN Feet
    Bottom of a rubble pile to scramble up to get up on the mesa top.
  11. 7mileBEF_17          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66031   W -110.58014        Elev: 4,630 Feet
    Top of a rubble pile used to get up onto the mesa top. Continue northeast back toward the road.
  12. 7mileBEF_18          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66308   W -110.57514        Elev: NaN Feet
    Crossing over the shallow drainage. Continue northeast and up the dirt hill to the next level. This shallow drainage is the top end of the Selfish Fork. If on approach to Second Guess Fork walk west roughly rim walking the dirt mesa above Selfish Fork on the left (south). As you get about 0.2 miles farther veer left and look for a weakness in the cliff band to the right (north).
  13. 7mileBEF_19          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66305   W -110.57372        Elev: NaN Feet
    After getting up this small dirt hill continue northeast toward the road. As you continue you may notice a drainage forming on your right (southish) which is the top of Big East Fork. You can drop back into the drainage if desired and follow it up but travel may be easier staying high and walking the rolling desert to the car about 0.75 miles to the northeast. If on the approach route to Selfish Fork continue about 500 feet southwest to the top of a the Selfish Fork drainage then about 200 feet farther to the first drop at the head of the canyon. If on approach to Second Guess Fork walk northwest over into then across to the other side of the shallow drainage above Selfish Fork.
  14. pk7MileEast-1          Lat/Lon (WGS84):  N 37.66847   W -110.56220        Elev: 4,850 Feet
    Spots to park for doing the Big East Fork, Selfish Fork, Little East Fork or Second Guess Fork of Seven Mile Creek. This spot is 0.52 miles after passing the stock pond and is where a minor drainage crosses the road. There is no defined parking spot and you will need to pull off the side of the road where you feel comfortable doing so. A GPS may be helpful to know you are in the correct spot. To go down Big East Fork, follow southwest down the minor drainage here or park about 600 feet north of here where another minor drainage crosses the road and is another minor fork of Big East Fork which can also be walked down to enter Big East Fork. Walk southwest down the minor drainage you parked at for about 0.42 miles to the confluence of the two minor drainages. To go to Selfish Fork or Second Guess Fork. Walk southwest across rolling desert staying just to the north of the minor drainage (the minor drainage will be on your left). Walk about 0.73 miles out to a minor dirt hill near the head of Selfish Fork. To go to Little East Fork, ............

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